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Out Of Bounds: NASCAR Driver Dale Earnhardt Jr. On Concussions

Apr 9, 2017
Originally published on April 9, 2017 8:11 pm

NASCAR's most popular driver, Dale Earnhardt Jr., is back on the track after a long recovery period from having suffered yet another concussion.

Earnhardt Jr. was recently medically cleared to return to competition. We caught up with him right after practice at Texas Motor Speedway for this edition of "Out Of Bounds." He tells NPR's Lulu Garcia-Navarro how concussions have changed NASCAR and his own life.

"I'm excited about what I'm seeing out of NASCAR being more proactive to keep drivers safe and err on the side of safety," he says.

"I certainly am more aware, whether I want to be or not, of how dangerous it is," adds the 42-year-old, who lost his father to racing. "But going through the injury yourself really puts it into perspective of what's important."

Interview Highlights


On NASCAR taking concussions seriously

After any accident any driver has, they have to go to the infield care center and get a SCAT test with the neurosurgeon. And that's really important that someone sees each driver after every accident, whereas the only reason you had to go to the infield care center was — in the past seasons was if you were involved in an accident and could not drive your car back to the garage. If you were able to drive your car back to the garage, no matter how damaged it was, you did not have to go to the infield care center. So they changed that rule this year. Anybody involved in any kind of altercation on the track, no matter how severe or how minimal, they have to go to the infield care center and receive this treatment.

On if he thinks the focus on concussion has come too late

You can never be safe enough. I mean, we've learned a lot of things in the past 20 years, made a lot of updates to the race tracks. Soft walls on all the race tracks is mandatory now. You wish you could have had that. ... many years before we had the technology to do it and understood how critical it was in reducing the G-forces of impacts and so forth — making drivers safer. We've improved the interior of the cars as well. We've improved the headrest and all that. We have the HANS device and everything else to keep us safe.

I'm excited about what I'm seeing out of NASCAR being more proactive to keep drivers safe and err on the side of safety. Sometimes, you know, you — drivers are worried about being misdiagnosed and maybe missing a race when they don't really have a concussion. But you can never take the risk there. It's just too dangerous to layer concussions. And the first concussion can be bad enough, but if you don't get it treated and don't get it diagnosed, if you get another one in a very short period of time, that's when you get in serious long-term damage and danger.

On if it's something he talks about with other drivers

I think that all athletes, especially the younger they are, have the competitive spirit and don't want to miss an opportunity and give up their opportunity or give up their chance to another driver or another player or what have you, no matter the sport.

I'm 42 years old, so it's way easier for me at my age to make a more conscious decision to take care of myself rather than put myself at risk. I know for sure that it would be a much harder decision if I was younger and more worried about my opportunity being given to someone else.

On what he worried about when he was younger

I don't think any of us knew the dangers of repeated concussions or the fact that even when you got a concussion, the idea to go get treatment for it never entered our minds. We just didn't have — we weren't educated enough. We were really ignorant to it. I would get concussions in my early 20s racing, and it was a bit of a badge of honor. You almost bragged about being dizzy. And it was something you looked at as much like a bruise. You just let her heal and move on.

On if he often thinks his next ride could be his last

I certainly am more aware, whether I want to be or not, of how dangerous it is. And I lost my father in 2001 in racing. And I knew then how dangerous it was. And then — but going through the injury yourself really puts it into perspective of what's important. I'm also in a different — you know, I've got a few things going on in my life that certainly have changed my perspective aside from the injuries and the concussions. My marriage in the off-season definitely reordered some of my priorities. Our wish to start a family one day soon has changed a few things around for me and made me think about life differently.

But I really — I took a big risk, I think, to come back to race. Although I'm healthy, I'm still at danger, just like anyone else out there racing, to get concussions. And having gone through it at one point — during the worst, sickest part about it - I really didn't want to have anything to do with racing. But as I got healthier, I got the itch, I guess, or the urge to come back. And I just want to race as long as I'm enjoying it. When I no longer enjoy it, I find something else to enjoy.

On if he sees a moment in the near future where he might no longer be racing

I don't know when that's going to be. And I'm 42, and I look online at statistics of other drivers and not many of them had a ton of success beyond 45. There are a few. But I haven't really decided when I'm going to hang it up.

On what his wife thinks

She was probably the same as me when I was really sick. She didn't want me to do it again. You know, we're both living through this every day. And she saw the worst of it. You know, at that point, you want nothing to do with what got you in that position. But once I started feeling better and I talked her about it, she said, "If you want to go race more, I'm not going to tell you otherwise. I want you to be happy."

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LOURDES GARCIA-NAVARRO, HOST:

NASCAR's most popular driver is back on the track after a long recovery period after suffering yet another concussion.

(SOUNDBITE OF MONTAGE)

UNIDENTIFIED MAN #1: It's Earnhardt.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN #2: Oh, yeah.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN #1: (Laughter).

UNIDENTIFIED MAN #3: (Unintelligible).

UNIDENTIFIED MAN #4: Ouch.

DALE EARNHARDT JR.: Got cleaned out by number 47 - hard to break here, man.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN #1: Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s season is officially done. He, of course, has been trying to recover from the concussion.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN #5: Dale Earnhardt Jr. has been medically cleared to return to NASCAR competition.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: In this edition of Out Of Bounds, Dale Earnhardt Jr. tells us how concussions have changed NASCAR and his own life. We caught up with him right after practice at Texas Motor Speedway. He says NASCAR is taking concussions seriously.

EARNHARDT JR.: After any accident any driver has, they have to go to the infield care center and get a SCAT test with the neurosurgeon. And that's really important that someone sees each driver after every accident, whereas the only reason you had to go to the infield care center was - in the past seasons was if you were involved in an accident and could not drive your car back to the garage. If you were able to drive your car back to the garage, no matter how damaged it was, you did not have to go to the infield care center. So they changed that rule this year. Anybody involved in any kind of altercation on the track, no matter how severe or how minimal, they have to go to the infield care center and receive this treatment.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Do you think this might be a little, you know, late in - not just for NASCAR but generally - now that we're seeing, you know, such a big focus on it, do you think this should have been done before?

EARNHARDT JR.: You can never be safe enough. I mean, we've learned a lot of things in the past 20 years, made a lot of updates to the race tracks. Soft walls on all the race tracks is mandatory now. Yeah, you wish you could have had that, you know, many years before we had the technology to do it and understood how critical it was in reducing the G-forces of impacts and so forth - making drivers safer. We've improved the interior of the cars as well. We've improved the headrest and all that. We have the HANS device and everything else to keep us safe.

And I'm excited about what I'm seeing out of NASCAR being more proactive to keep drivers safe and err on the side of safety. Sometimes, you know, you - drivers are worried about being misdiagnosed and maybe missing a race when they don't really have a concussion. But you can never take the risk there. It's just too dangerous to layer concussions. And the first concussion can be bad enough, but if you don't get it treated and don't get it diagnosed, if you get another one in a very short period of time, that's when you get in serious long-term damage and danger.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Is that something you talk about with other drivers? Is there possibly a resistance? Like you said, they don't want to miss a race, they don't want to be diagnosed with something, so they might not be that interested in having so much supervision.

EARNHARDT JR.: Exactly. I think that all athletes, especially the younger they are, have the competitive spirit and don't want to miss an opportunity and give up their opportunity or give up their chance to another driver or another player or what have you, no matter the sport.

So I myself - I'm 42 years old, so it's way easier for me at my age to make a more conscious decision to take care of myself rather than put myself at risk. I know for sure that it would be a much harder decision if I was younger and more worried about my opportunity being given to someone else.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Were you worried about when you were younger? Was this something that you were thinking about?

EARNHARDT JR.: Absolutely not. I don't think any of us knew the dangers of repeated concussions or the fact - to get - even when you got a concussion, the idea to go get treatment for it never entered our minds. We just didn't have - we weren't educated enough. We were really ignorant to it. I would get concussions in my early 20s racing, and it was a bit of a badge of honor. You almost bragged about being dizzy. And it was something you looked at as much like a bruise. You just let her heal and move on.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: A lot of your fans have said that now when they see you drive they think more about, you know, this could be the last time they see you drive, which is never anything you want to think about. Do you think about that?

EARNHARDT JR.: I certainly am more aware, whether I want to be or not, of how dangerous it is. And I lost my father in 2001 in racing. And I knew then how dangerous it was. And then - but going through the injury yourself really puts it into perspective of what's important. I'm also in a different - you know, I've got a few things going on in my life that certainly have changed my perspective aside from the injuries and the concussions. My marriage in the offseason definitely reordered some of my priorities. Our wish to start a family one day soon has changed a few things around for me and made me think about life differently.

But I really - I took a big risk, I think, to come back to race. Although I'm healthy, I'm still at danger, just like anyone else out there racing, to get concussions. And having gone through it at one point - during the worst, sickest part about it - I really didn't want to have anything to do with racing. But as I got healthier, I got the itch, I guess, or the urge to come back. And I just want to race as long as I'm enjoying it. When I no longer enjoy it, I find something else to enjoy.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: How much longer do you think that will be? Can you see a moment where - in the near future where you might not be doing this anymore?

EARNHARDT JR.: I don't know when that's going to be. And I'm 42, and I look online at statistics of other drivers and not many of them had a ton of success beyond 45. There are a few. But I haven't really decided when I'm going to hang it up.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: What does your wife say?

EARNHARDT JR.: She was probably the same as me when I was really sick. She didn't want me to do it again. You know, we're both living through this every day. And she saw the worst of it. You know, at that point, you want nothing to do with what got you in that position. But once I started feeling better and I talked her about it, she said I - if you want to go race more I'm not going to tell you otherwise. I want you to be happy.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Dale Earnhardt Jr., NASCAR's No. 1 driver, thank you so much.

EARNHARDT JR.: Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.